John is joined by writer/editor/producers Kurt Andersen and Michael Hirschorn to take stock of the Trump era in our politics and culture. The three friends discuss the once-and-future president’s reelection, his cabinet picks (one of whom, Kurt reveals, was his college cocaine dealer), and the ways in which the logic of reality TV not only explains the Trump phenomenon but that of Elon Musk, R.F.K. Jr., and Luigi Mangione. Kurt and Michael also riff on the books, movies, and TV shows that floated their boats this year, from Wicked and Somebody Somewhere to Kendrick Lamar’s GNX.
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