Matt is joined by Nathan Hubbard—former C.E.O. of Ticketmaster, current C.E.O. of Firebird Music, and Ringer podcaster—to discuss the return of Taylor Swift’s music to TikTok despite distributing partner Universal Music Group’s boycott of the platform. They debate whether or not Taylor Swift should allow her music to reap the benefits of TikTok while other artists suffer. Matt finishes the show with an opening weekend box office prediction on the upcoming horror film Abigail.

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Host: Matt Belloni
Guest: Nathan Hubbard

Producers: Craig Horlbeck and Jessie Lopez
Theme Song: Devon Renaldo

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