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On Thursday, Megyn Kelly and Tucker Carlson, two of the nation’s preeminent conservative culture-war entrepreneurs, came together on Megyn’s eponymous podcast to discuss the war in Iran and indulge in a little intraparty sniping at the “neocons” in the punditocracy. Megyn played a clip of Ben Shapiro promoting further U.S. military strikes, arguing that it exemplified “the pressure Trump is under from Shapiro, [Mark] Levin,” and others to forgo a peace plan and fight “until there’s nothing left.”