Gavin’s ’28 Gamble: Gerrymandering Edition

Dan Pfeiffer
"Gavin Newsom is one of the very few Democratic politicians who understands how the base feels about this moment in time, and he is responding as such. He gets it. People think democracy is on the line," says Dan Pfeiffer. Photo: William B. Plowman/NBC/Getty Images
John Heilemann
August 19, 2025

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It wasn’t until Dan Pfeiffer and I sat down last Friday afternoon to tape the latest installment of my Impolitic podcast that I realized we hadn’t had a good long gab since Donald Trump reoccupied the White House in January—an unusually long gap in a running conversation that’s been going on for, yeesh, nearly 20 years now. So Dan and I would have had a lot of ground to cover even if he hadn’t just conducted a fired-up interview with California Governor Gavin Newsom about his audacious gambit to outflank his opposite number in Texas, Greg Abbott, in the battle over congressional redistricting that’s suddenly emerged as a defining, potentially chaos-unleashing conflict in the run-up to the 2026 midterms.