Welcome back to What I’m Hearing, en route to Sundance. Happy Oscar nominations day, big congrats
to the nominees, and more importantly, congrats to the awards publicists who scored their nomination bonuses. They’re the real winners here.
Tonight, a look at the box office prospects for the Melania Trump documentary, which is actually tracking okay thanks to an extraordinary rollout plan by Amazon. Also, some news on upcoming Amazon layoffs, a brewing union battle over video podcasts, Netflix ratings winners and losers, and my take on those Oscar
noms.
Mentioned in this issue: Mike Hopkins, Timothée Chalamet, Ms. Rachel, Pete Davidson, Michael Moore, Peter Friedlander, Mike De Luca, Emma Stone, Pam Abdy, Marlon Brando, Meryl Streep, Ryan Coogler, Nina Gold, Jeff Bezos, Douglas
Aibel, Conan O’Brien, Mr. Bean, Chris Pratt, Brett Ratner, Melania Trump, Dinesh D’Souza, John Mulaney, Courtenay Valenti, Jamie Patricof, and… the Deer Valley turkey chili.
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- Oscar noms, the flex
list: Some pretty huge flexes in this morning’s nominations. In descending order...
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- Mike and Pam at Warner Bros.—When was the last time a major studio delivered the two frontrunners for best picture? And for movies that nearly got them fired? We discussed De Luca and Abdy’s 30 total noms for Sinners (16), One Battle After Another (13), and Weapons (1) on The Town
today. Fox had The Shape of Water and Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri in 2018, but that wasn’t really a two-horse race, and both were from its Searchlight specialty division. Maybe Paramount’s Chinatown and The Godfather: Part II back in 1974?
- Sundance—The 2025
festival premiered all five documentary feature nominees, plus best picture nominee Train Dreams. As for other fests, Venice had Bugonia and Frankenstein, Hamnet was Telluride, and Marty Supreme debuted at New York Film Fest. Toronto was again shut out as a world premiere destination, but several titles played there (I saw Train Dreams and Frankenstein at TIFF). And the two frontrunners, Sinners and One Battle
After Another (as well as F1) bypassed festivals entirely.
- Emma Stone and Timothée Chalamet—At 37, she’s the youngest woman to score seven Oscar nominations (beating Meryl Streep’s record). And at 30, he’s the youngest to be nominated for best actor three times since Marlon Brando in the 1950s.
- Ryan Coogler—Whatever happens to Sinners on
Oscar night (I still think One Battle takes picture), Coogler has pulled off a trifecta only achieved by Tarantino: He’s got huge box office ($368 million worldwide), industry acclaim (record Oscar noms), and the copyright reversion for his movie.
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little more: I hate to say it, but the new Oscar for casting seems to be a bust. As feared, the branch simply nominated the perceived “top five” best picture films, rather than looking closely at more nuanced achievements in casting. (Nina Gold and Douglas Aibel of Jay Kelly would have earned a vote from me for that crowded train sequence alone.) Proof: Sentimental Value, which is considered a second-tier best picture nominee, was not
included in the casting group despite all four of its main stars scoring acting noms.
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- Union
battle brewing over video podcasts: Are video pods just nonunion talk shows? That’s been a topic in guild circles for a while, as former late-night stars like Conan O’Brien and Trevor Noah have all but re-created their former TV shows in digital formats. But while platforms like Spotify and YouTube are not signatories to most union contracts that govern Hollywood productions, Netflix is a signatory. And Netflix has begun pushing hard into video
pods—mostly by licensing shows from studios like The Ringer and iHeart, but also by producing its own shows. (Disclosure: my podcast, The Town, is produced by The Ringer but does not air on Netflix.)Now Pete Davidson’s video podcast is debuting on January 30 as a Netflix exclusive, meaning no audio component at all. So… a talk show, right? Similar Netflix chatfests starring John Mulaney and David Letterman have been
governed by union contracts including SAG-AFTRA’s Network Television Code and the WGA’s Television MBA, which dictate weekly compensation, health benefits, and general working conditions. What about video pods that are made for and air exclusively on Netflix? “SAG-AFTRA and Netflix continue to have discussions regarding the Pete Davidson project,” a union rep told me. I bet…
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You’re not paranoid, far fewer shows are getting made: The year-end film and TV report from Luminate reveals in stark terms the content recession in Hollywood, specifically the decline in TV shows since the peak in 2022…
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- Yet Netflix engagement
is up again…: The latest Netflix engagement report revealed more than 96.2 billion hours streamed during the second half of 2025, up 2.2 percent year over year. TV content was up 4.7 percent, and while film declined 4.2 percent, original films were up 4.4 percent, thanks mostly to KPop Demon Hunters and Happy Gilmore 2. Still, a Guggenheim analysis suggests that engagement per Netflix viewer is softening to 1.6 hours per day, down 7 percent. Hence podcasts,
YouTube creators, and maybe Warner Bros.A few other second-half Netflix highlights…
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- Meghan Markle doesn’t rate: The second season of With Love, Meghan scored just 2 million views and ranked 1,016, a decline of 60 percent from the first season.
- Ms. Rachel is the new Cocomelon: The kiddie import from YouTube generated 47 million views, placing it ninth on the overall list of TV originals. The highest-rated
Cocomelon season was at 10.5 million, ranking 120 on the list.
- Mr. Bean’s still got it: At 71, Rowan Atkinson generated 44 million views for Man vs. Baby, his four-episode Christmas follow up to Man vs. Bee. That trounced hit U.S. comedies like Nobody Wants This Season 2 and Emily in Paris Season 5 (both 30 million).
- ‘Boots’ shouldn’t have been
canceled: The gay Marine dramedy series was axed despite generating 30.7 million views, good enough for No. 23 overall and outperforming the renewed Nobody Wants This Season 2 (No. 24) and The Diplomat Season 3 (No. 41).
- Logs are the new stars: Fireplace for Your Home: Crackling Birchwood Fireplace, which is just a video of a burning log, generated 10.7 million views, outrating new seasons of Ted
Danson’s A Man on the Inside, Selling Sunset, and the reality competition Building the Band.
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Box office over/under: Amazon’s Chris Pratt-in-a-chair thriller Mercy has smelled bad since its CinemaCon footage last spring, so I’ll take the under on the already low $13 million tracking.
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And speaking of upcoming Amazon movies…
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On top of the $40 million Amazon ponied up for Brett Ratner’s docu-hagiography, the studio
is spending another $35 million to open it in 27 countries, including a splashy Kennedy Center premiere to be attended by top executives. But for all the expense, Melania is for an audience of one.
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Have you seen the early numbers for the Melania movie? National Research Group put out a new
forecast today for the infamous—sorry, inspirational—Melania Trump documentary, executive produced by the first lady herself and directed by Brett Ratner, for which Amazon MGM Studios paid a perfectly normal, totally reasonable $40 million. The movie is expected to gross around $5 million in the U.S. and Canada over the weekend of January 30 in about 1,400 or 1,500 theaters, per NRG. (I’m told Amazon’s internal projections are all over the place.)
Presales are unsurprisingly falling fairly strictly along red/blue lines.
There’s been some negative media coverage based on slow initial sales in big cities, but an evening showing of Melania at the AMC North Park 15 in a red part of Dallas is
already more than half booked. Multiple sources told me that the overall numbers have ticked up this week, closer to the presales for Reagan, the gushing biopic that opened to $7.7 million over the long Labor Day holiday in 2024. Opening weekend will follow a 20-city preview next Thursday night, coinciding with what I’m sure will be a tasteful, understated gala premiere at the venue temporarily known as the Trump Kennedy Center.
Jokes aside, $5 million would actually be a pretty
good opening number for a documentary in this theatrical climate. (Amazon’s Chris Pratt thriller Mercy might not even crack $10 million this weekend on more than twice as many screens.) One close observer told me Melania is definitely showing some life on tracking, though it’s far from a breakout. Conservative political movies are hard to predict, and when I polled a few box office analysts, they noted Melania could perform like Am I Racist?,
the right-wing mockumentary from the Daily Wire braintrust that opened to $4.5 million last September on its way to more than $12 million, more than four times its production budget, per Vulture. After Death, a doc about near-death religious experiences from the faith-based distributor Angel Studios, opened to $5.1 million
in 2023.
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Those movies all cost their distributors a lot less than $40 million, of course, and on the
pessimistic side, Melania could perform like The Apprentice, the Donald origin story that opened to less than $2 million on 1,700 screens last year, though that was hardly a sympathetic portrait. Trump is understandably more enthused about Melania, which, after all, was produced by its subject, and follows her during the 20 days leading up to the 2025 inauguration. “I’ve seen pieces of it. It’s incredible,” Trump declared last week. I bet.
Amazon has not shared the film with critics, and won’t before its release.
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So about $5 million for a Melania infomercial would be as good as any doc post-Covid. We’re a long way from
right-wing provocateur Dinesh D’Souza grossing $33 million for 2016: Obama’s America in 2012, and nowhere near the heyday of Michael Moore, whose Fahrenheit 9/11 took in a staggering $220 million worldwide in 2004 (that’s $377 million in today’s money). A more realistic goal would be matching the Ruth Bader Ginsburg homage RBG, which grossed $14 million in theaters in 2018.
Still, despite that low box office
ceiling, Amazon is putting some outsize muscle behind Melania, which is getting at least some theaters in 27 countries, with FilmNation handling the international rollout. I’m told Mike Hopkins, Amazon’s top content exec, committed to more than $35 million in worldwide P&A spend (the cost of marketing and releasing the movie in theaters). That’s insanely high for a documentary—though does it shock you? The $40 million acquisition price was widely perceived as a barely
veiled payoff to keep Trump happy. I suspect dropping an additional $35 million to promote the film will not be nearly as costly to Amazon as the president being upset when his wife’s vanity doc doesn’t open.
For context, even the Taylor Swift concert documentary spent far less on P&A, though she has a lot more followers than the first lady, who has posted about Melania more than a dozen times on Instagram in recent weeks. Amazon has bought pricey national TV ads
during NFL football, as well as a Sphere takeover in Vegas, and a full outdoor campaign, even in blue cities. I’m pleased to report that the billboard on Westwood Boulevard in West L.A. had managed to remain un-defaced as of last night, though several others have suffered an uglier fate, and social media is awash with videos of moviegoers booing the trailer when it plays in big-city theaters.
In addition, Hopkins is expected to attend next week’s premiere in D.C., as is
film chief Courtenay Valenti and several other Amazon execs who’d probably prefer to be one million other places than a hostage parade for the cameras on a Trump red carpet. It’s still unclear if Jeff Bezos will be there, though two sources told me Trump invited him. (The White House didn’t respond to my email.) The film is expected to appear on Prime Video after a three- or four-week window, though that date could be moved up if the audience in theaters does
not materialize. Hopkins has been telling people he believes the title will be a strong performer on the service, which would certainly temper some of the criticism of paying such a high price. Will it? Let’s see if Trump and Fox News coordinate next week to drive ticket sales.
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The Melania movie is arriving at an interesting time for Amazon’s Hollywood experiment. Multiple
sources tell me that Hopkins is about to drop another reorganization and a new round of layoffs, this one focused on the television side under global TV head Peter Friedlander, who arrived from Netflix in September. Friedlander’s goal is to eliminate fiefdoms and streamline development at the studio, which is known for a decidedly un-streamlined process that confuses many around town. Amazon just did layoffs in October, and I can’t even count the various reorgs
over the past few years, but additional cuts at the studio are coming, per three sources familiar. That’s in line with Seattle’s mandate to eliminate layers of management throughout the company.
Despite this, an Amazon source pushed back when I suggested that the overall output of the TV group would likely decline, especially as Hopkins pursues additional sports rights. Prime Video aired 59 shows in 2025, up from 42 in the strike-hobbled 2024 and a bit of an outlier as platforms like HBO
Max and even Netflix aired fewer last year, according to Luminate. Those numbers will grow, per the source at the studio; the shows will just be produced by a smaller organization, they hope.
Amazon has scaled back some of its spending growth trajectories in the wake of its new $1.9 billion-a-year deal for the NBA. In addition, Hopkins is said to be under pressure to generate more from the $8.5 billion purchase of MGM, which he spearheaded in 2021. Among others, there’s a
Thomas Crown Affair film remake coming next year from Michael B. Jordan, and Elle, a TV prequel adaptation of Legally Blonde, which scored a second season months before the first debuts, in July.
At the same time, Valenti and the film side of Amazon are poised for either a breakout year—or one that proves the studio is not yet ready to compete with the big guns. Amazon is set to release more than a dozen films in theaters in 2026, starting with
Mercy and including the big-budget bets Project Hail Mary (March 20) and Masters of the Universe (June 5). Without an I.P. trove to exploit, can Amazon evolve into a real player in theaters? If Melania becomes an unlikely blockbuster, maybe she can start picking the movies.
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For the last Sundance in Park City, producer, proprietor of the
Jamie’s List newsletter, and WIH food correspondent Jamie Patricof offers a few spots to savor before the move to Boulder…
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My Last Meals in Park
City
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I haven’t skipped a Sundance in two decades, and I’ll be back for the 20th anniversary screening of my first
film, Half Nelson. I’m excited for Boulder—well, excited for a new city’s culinary scene—but there are many restaurants in Park City I’ll miss. So this year, make sure to hit up El Chubasco for some camarónes a la diabla, Freshie’s for a lobster roll and clam chowder, and The Eating Establishment for a “hungry miner skillet.” And for the NFL playoffs, Collie’s has great beer and wings. Finally, for those who crave the famous Deer Valley turkey chili, a little-known fact: They
now offer chili to go by the half or full gallon. If you’re staying with friends, that’s how to be the perfect house guest.
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See you Monday,
Matt
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