• Washington
  • Wall Street
  • A.I.
  • Hollywood
  • Media
  • Fashion
  • Sports
  • Art
  • Join Puck Newsletters What is puck? Authors Podcasts Gift Puck Careers Events
  • Join Puck

    Directly Supporting Authors

    A new economic model in which writers are also partners in the business.

    Personalized Subscriptions

    Customize your settings to receive the newsletters you want from the authors you follow.

    Stay in the Know

    Connect directly with Puck talent through email and exclusive events.

  • What is puck? Newsletters Authors Podcasts Events Gift Puck Careers
Welcome back to What I’m Hearing, with a few shorter items tonight.
 ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ 
What I'm Hearing

Welcome back to What I’m Hearing, with a few shorter items tonight. Before we start, Jonathan Handel sends in this labor nugget:

  • As SAG-AFTRA talks are continuing and ratification ballots for the WGA deal are due back tomorrow, reports of an imminent actors strike against the video game industry are premature. Despite the recent strike authorization vote, I’ve learned that further talks are being scheduled.
Programming note: I’m taping a live episode of The Town with Lucas Shaw on Thursday at the Bloomberg media conference. Come see us! This week, Lucas and I surveyed the post-strike landscape for writers; Taylor Lorenz explained why YouTube has failed with scripted shows; and JB Perrette revealed the path to sports on Max (more below). Subscribe here and here.

Was this email forwarded to you? Click here to become a Puck member.

Discussed in this issue: Bryan Lourd, Taylor Swift, David Zaslav, Peter Chernin, Judd Apatow, Thomas Tull, Reese Witherspoon, Steven Mnuchin, Beyoncé, David Nevins, Ron Meyer, Kevin Huvane, James Murdoch… and Drew Carey’s Bob’s Big Boy tab.

But first…

Who Won the Week: Adam Aron (!)
Hard to believe that AMC’s “Ape” C.E.O. now has exclusive movies from Taylor Swift and Beyoncé, with Swift’s Oct. 13 release tracking for a $100 million to $120 million domestic opening. This may not stave off bankruptcy, but it’s a better strategy than launching a simian-themed wine.

Runner up: Thomas Tull — He’s back! A big return welcome to the prickly billionaire who tortured Warner Bros. executives for 15 years, then offloaded his Legendary Pictures to the Chinese for “$3.5 billion” in 2016 (narrator: it wasn’t actually $3.5 billion), and then seemed to swear off Hollywood entirely. He’s since been focused on investing, getting himself on the Forbes list, playing in his rock band, Ghost Hounds, and, recently, Teton Ridge, a “western culture” company named after his Idaho ranch. (My far more fashionable Puck colleague Lauren Sherman has been all over that story.)

But now Tull is (quietly) back in film and television. You’d have to get to the fourth paragraph of a Deadline story to even know that Teton Ridge Entertainment, run by Tull’s Legendary cohort Jillian Share, is backed by the guy who financed The Dark Knight and Inception. So what kind of movies will he make this time? Unclear, but one hint—it’s weird he left it out of the announcement—is that he did a first-look deal with Meghan McCain, which she’s “so excited” about.

Now a little follow-up to Thursday’s item on the content contraction…

This Week in Hollywood Pants-Wetting
Judd Apatow started making the rounds last week with a new film script he’d like to direct. The project is set to star Zach Galifianakis, and it should cost between $25 million and $30 million. Some studio or streamer will probably bite, but I wish his UTA reps luck. Universal passed, I’m told, after downgrading the Apatow-produced Please Don’t Destroy movie from theatrical to Peacock. And Netflix is a long shot after its executives were so disappointed by The Bubble, his 2022 directorial effort.

I’m not trying to pick on Apatow. It’s rough out there, particularly for comedies but for everything now. Many thought the floodgates of new projects would open post-WGA strike. At least so far, that hasn’t happened.

I’ll probably go deeper on this soon, but the flashing-red warning signs are everywhere in the Hollywood economy. The layoffs and cancellations and pullbacks are obvious, but when you look a little closer it’s even more stark. Consider today’s layoffs at DreamWorks Animation. Yes, 70 positions were eliminated, but as the animation website Cartoon Brew first noted, DWA told employees in Glendale something far more anxiety-inducing: the unit will rely more heavily on third-party studios and outsourced work, with the goal of reducing overall costs by 20 percent. That move leaves Disney as the only studio making at least some of its films exclusively in L.A., and even Disney is looking longingly at Vancouver.

Over in the representation world, consider those managers at Steve Cohen’s Range Media Partners that left this week. Susie Fox, Mackenzie Roussos, and Chelsea McKinnies asked for big raises when their contracts were up, and in good times, reps with hot clients like Ramy Youssef and Michael Che would expect to get them. Range said no, so the trio shopped themselves and, I’m told, several firms found the price to be too steep. Management 360 may bring them on as early as this week—that company is bulking up as it explores a possible sale or investment—but it’s hardly a bull market for talent reps.

Then there’s Candle Media, the Blackstone-backed Kevin Mayer-Tom Staggs roll-up that may be remembered as the peak of Peak TV. Lucas Shaw reported this week that Reese Witherspoon’s Hello Sunshine, the belle of that ball with a $900 million valuation in its 2021 sale to Candle, is expected to deliver just 10 percent of projected earnings this year, or less than $10 million when it promised more than $80 million. Yikes. The strike hurt, of course, but that money spigot hasn’t exactly been turned back on. Nobody ever thought the numbers from Candle made sense—and that was when streamers were paying huge premiums, which many of them are not now.

We could go on. But let’s not. I think the point is clear.

Quote of the Week
“She was questionable all week, but it looks like it’s officially inactive for today.”
—Jim Nantz, the CBS NFL announcer, revealing on-air that Taylor Swift did not attend today’s Travis Kelce game in Minnesota.

Not a fun quote, but an important one:

“The Ministry of Foreign Affairs holds Israel alone responsible for the current escalation due to this ongoing violations of the rights of the Palestinian people…”

That’s a statement from Qatar, which, along with Saudi Arabia and Iran, blamed Israel for this weekend’s surprise attack by Hamas. Hollywood angles seem unimportant here, but let’s all remember that Paramount is in business with Qatar’s state-owned beIN Media on Miramax; James Murdoch, currently waging a morality war on Fox News, got $1.5 billion in backing from the Qatar Investment Authority for his venture with Uday Shankar; just this year, Peter Chernin’s North Road Co. took $150 million from Qatar’s sovereign wealth fund (David Nevins, North Road’s C.E.O., was given a “Human Relations Award” from the American Jewish Federation); Ron Meyer, who once received the highest honor from the Simon Wiesenthal Center, was reportedly getting $6 million a year to consult for the Qatar royal family; Steve Mnuchin, honored in 2018 at the “Champions of Jewish Values” gala, has a bunch of Qatari money in his new fund (not to mention Saudi cash), and it just bought a bunch of Lionsgate stock. I know the politics here are complicated, but it’s also kinda not complicated.

Max Will Probably Pay to Include Sports
Live sports launched on Max this weekend, part of a five-month free trial before Warner Bros. Discovery starts charging $10 a month to stream the NBA, MLB, and March Madness games that already air on Turner networks. My Puck colleague Julia Alexander explained how this move is courting a different audience and is possibly not as threatening to the linear bundle distributors—which, after all, pay billions of dollars for exclusive access to live sports—as might be expected. But given that DirecTV sent a lawyer letter over Max airing programs from the barely-watched CNN network, it’s safe to assume the MPVDs are monitoring the Max sports situation closely.

I had Warners’ streaming chief JB Perrette on The Town this week, and he said he’s willing to make a deal to neutralize this issue. “Part of the reason we wanted to give the long runway of this trial is to provide us with enough [time] to engage with our partners on how best we can actually work with them to upsell and potentially cut them in on some of the economics,” he told me. So, paying the distributors? I asked. “We’re open to having a conversation with them about that,” he said.

So no, there isn’t a blanket right to simulcast. But it’s all a negotiation. After all, NBC and CBS are simulcasting sports on their streaming services for no upsell (although the distinction between Turner’s cable networks and the free over-the-air broadcast networks is not insignificant). And the linear carriers know that the leagues need to be placated in order to keep live sports within the cable bundle for the long term. And to keep the leagues happy, the rightsholders need to reach younger fans through streaming.

It’s the same issue that we saw with the Disney-Charter standoff, where Charter demanded (and ultimately got) the right to include the ad-supported version of Disney+ in some bundles. The ultimate goal of the MPVDs is to get Max in their bundles, rather than being sold as a stand-alone service, and both Perrette and Warner Discovery C.E.O. David Zaslav are more than willing to oblige—at the right price. “We love the fact that if they want to integrate billing and upsell their customers, that’s a great outcome for us,” Perrette told me. “We’re very open.”

My Reading List…
This is why you don’t announce three movies and a $400 million rights deal: Exorcist: Believer barfed all over the bed with a $27 million opening and a horrific C Cinemascore. [IndieWire]

Ted Sarandos has recently “softened” his disinterest in NBA rights, says Alex Sherman, thanks to Netflix’s push into advertising. [CNBC]

Makan Delrahim, former D.O.J. antitrust enforcer, explains how a change in the law led to Taylor Swift and Beyoncé cutting out Hollywood from the upcoming concert film bonanza. [Dealbook]

Speaking of Swift, just follow these simple lessons and you will be as successful as her. [WSJ]

Drew Carey, the real hero of the writers strike, spent about $600,000 all-in on food for WGA members at Bob’s Big Boy and Swingers, according to the new L.A. Magazine.

R.I.P Marshall Grossman, the lawyer who hired me out of law school and, among other accomplishments, helped force the Jonathan Club to accept Black and Jewish people in 1985. [Daily Journal]

The Feedback
My Thursday analysis of Julia Ormond’s lawsuit claiming CAA’s Bryan Lourd and Kevin Huvane enabled her abuse by Harvey Weinstein triggered lots of CAA haters. No personal attacks below, but some critical points…

“There’s only one solution to this problem: Reparations. CAA reaped millions of dollars from what you correctly call its ‘special’ relationship with Harvey. Arguably that relationship took the agency from a shaky position after Ovitz left to what it became and still is today. Bryan, Kevin, and Richard [Lovett] should create a $100 million fund to pay its former clients who were physically and mentally abused by Harvey (enable an outside law firm to evaluate claims and apportion the payouts). If they won’t do it on their own, their clients and [Francios] Pinault [the agency’s new majority owner] should require it. This is the only way to truly atone and move forward.” –A retired agent

“What you don’t know is that CAA poaches clients by talking about how great they are with actresses. It’s literally part of the sales pitch.” –A (rival) agent

“The hypocrisy in this story knows no end. Nobody except you will say it out loud because they are all afraid of CAA.” –An actress

“What some people don’t remember is this: Julia Ormond was in a very tenuous position after the alleged Weinstein assault. She had left a loyal agent at Paradigm in the great raid of 1995 that Lourd, Huvane and others had pulled off. I’m not sure if Ormond back then really had much of a choice other than to be quiet. God knows what promises were made to her before she dumped Paradigm. She’d gone all in on CAA and Miramax, and the result was sort of a tragedy.” –A publicist

Finally…
Wish, Disney’s big Thanksgiving animation play, debuted on The Quorum’s early tracking chart, and the numbers are promising (or at least better than Strange World)…
https://puck.news/
Have a great week,
Matt

Got a question, comment, complaint, or suggestion for who should host the inevitable U.S. version of Naked Attraction? (My vote is Sarah Silverman.) Email me at Matt@puck.news or call/text me at 310-804-3198.

FOUR STORIES WE’RE TALKING ABOUT
Iger Succession Setbacks
Iger Succession Setbacks
Disney succession, Twitter/X debt woes, and more.
WILLIAM D. COHAN
Biden Plan B Delusions
Biden Plan B Delusions
Puncturing the alt-candidate fantasy.
TARA PALMERI
Fashion Month Wrapped
Fashion Month Wrapped
A final dispatch from Paris.
LAUREN SHERMAN
Ukraine’s “Darth Vader”
Ukraine’s “Darth Vader”
A clear-eyed look at Ukraine’s new perils.
JULIA IOFFE
Puck
Facebook Twitter Instagram LinkedIn

Need help? Review our FAQs
page
or contact
us
for assistance. For brand partnerships, email ads@puck.news.

You received this email because you signed up to receive emails from Puck, or as part of your Puck account associated with . To stop receiving this newsletter and/or manage all your email preferences, click here.

Puck is published by Heat Media LLC. 227 W 17th St New York, NY 10011.

SEE THE ARCHIVES

SHARE
Try Puck for free

Sign up today to join the inside conversation at the nexus of Wall Street, Washington, A.I., Hollywood, and more.

Already a member? Log In


  • Daily articles and breaking news
  • Personal emails directly from our authors
  • Gift subscriber-only stories to friends & family
  • Unlimited access to archives

  • Exclusive bonus days of select newsletters
  • Exclusive access to Puck merch
  • Early bird access to new editorial and product features
  • Invitations to private conference calls with Puck authors

Exclusive to Inner Circle only



Latest Articles from Hollywood

Obsession
Scott Mendelson • October 9, 2023
Letters from the HollyTube Revolution
The breakout weekends for ‘Backrooms’ and ‘Obsession’ tell us something real about the origin of Hollywood’s next generation of talent—and something more complicated about its future.
Blake Lively court
Eriq Gardner • October 9, 2023
The Blake Lively–Justin Baldoni Suit Could Be Headed for a Do-Over
While Lively elected to settle with her ‘It Ends With Us’ director, her search for attorneys fees and damages has vexed the judge overseeing the case. Will the solution be a new suit in a new venue?
Brendan Carr
Eriq Gardner • October 9, 2023
Disney Is Ready to Clobber Brendan Carr
The F.C.C. chairman is forcing a showdown with Disney over its D.E.I. policies—seemingly a thin pretext for punishing ABC News. But Carr, usually a savvy operator, has an unusually weak hand. And Disney’s lawyers have figured out exactly how to exploit it.


Backrooms movie
Matthew Belloni • October 9, 2023
The 27-Year-Old Assistant Who Found ‘Backrooms’
Shawn Levy’s production company assigned a young staffer to monitor YouTube for potential talent. Four years later, Kane Parsons’ fantasy thriller opened to $118 million worldwide and has everyone in town talking about a possible sea change.
dreams of violets
Matthew Belloni • October 9, 2023
The Hollywood A.I. Appeasement Vibe Shift
As the industry—even the creative class—shifts to cautiously accept A.I., a Cate Blanchett–founded nonprofit is pushing to adopt a framework of consent for performers. Meanwhile, the business is groping around for new ratings standards in an effort to separate out the slop. Both battles are just beginning.
Mohammed bin Salman
Kim Masters • October 9, 2023
Hollywood’s Saudi Tax Rebate Problem
Saudi Arabia has been offering generous rebates to lure productions to the Gulf. But even before the region experienced war and instability and spending slowed, some producers had been left holding an empty bag.


David Ellison
Eriq Gardner • October 9, 2023
The Ellison Trust-Busting Is Getting Political
Paramount’s planned takeover of Warner Bros. has triggered an all-out legal arms race between white-shoe law firms and an increasingly aggressive coalition of state A.G.s. Among the first battle lines: whether the Ellisons secured favorable regulatory treatment in exchange for favorable coverage.


Get access to this story

Enter your email for a free preview of Puck’s full offering, including exclusive articles, private emails from authors, and more.

Verify your email and sign in by clicking the link we just sent.

Already a member? Log In


Start 14 Day Free Trial for Unlimited Access Instead →



Latest Articles from Hollywood

toy story 5
Matthew Belloni • October 9, 2023
Hollywood’s Gen Z Gap Is Real… and It’s Growing
In a complementary study to my annual survey of L.A. teens, it turns out that young people across America have pretty specific—and not all that shocking or unfair—gripes with the movie business.
Johnny Hallyday photographers
Matthew Belloni • October 9, 2023
What I’ve Heard: Five Years of Hollywood Disruption
A half decade of M&A opportunists, Peak TV casualties, industry contraction, devastating strikes, and approximately 1,500 David Zaslav mentions later, show business still can’t figure out if it’s reinventing itself or fading away. So I asked 100 industry sources what they think is going on.
Mandalorian and Grogu
Scott Mendelson • October 9, 2023
Summer Box Office Blackjack: What the Biggest Movies Need to Beat the House
From Grogu to Spidey, here’s what each of this summer’s top 10 tentpoles actually needs to earn—and why success means something different for everyone.


Duncan Crabtree-Ireland
Eriq Gardner • October 9, 2023
SAG-AFTRA’s Surprise A.I. Détente
News and notes on the union’s peace treaty with digital “actress” Tilly Norwood. Plus: The bizarre lawsuit over Tung Tung Tung Sahur, which may be the first major test of whether trademark law can do what copyright won’t—protect an A.I.-generated creation.
shadow and bone
Julia Alexander • October 9, 2023
Streaming TV’s Romantasy Problem
Hollywood keeps trying to mine the red-hot genre for adaptations with built-in female fandoms. So why haven’t Amazon or Netflix cracked the code?
David Zaslav
Matthew Belloni • October 9, 2023
The Hollywood C.E.O. Gluttony Index
Executive compensation in media has exploded in the past 30 years, even in a period of steady decline for the industry and a generally stagnant stock market. An eye-opening new study ranks the boom’s victors and their jaw-dropping spoils.


ted sarandos
Kim Masters • October 9, 2023
Netflix Goes to the Movies & Baldoni’s Second-Act Chances
News and notes from around town: Will the famously theater-shy streamer go all-in on distribution? And now that the Blake Lively war is almost over, what are Justin Baldoni’s Hollywood prospects?
Get access to this story

Enter your email to get access to one article and free previews of our private emails from Puck authors and editors.

OR

Already a Member? Sign in



Latest Articles from Hollywood

Justin Baldoni blake lively lawsuit
Eriq Gardner • October 9, 2023
Yes, the Blake-Baldoni Case Does Have a Winner
Lively’s lawyers say the ‘It Ends With Us’ settlement is just the preface to another battle to recover attorneys’ fees, treble damages, and potentially punitive awards, too. But will a Manhattan judge really apply an untested California law to a conflict on a New Jersey film set?
Josh D'Amaro
Matthew Belloni • October 9, 2023
Disney’s Josh D’Amaro Manifesto Translator
In his first earnings call as C.E.O., D’Amaro dropped a 3,000-word mission statement preaching A.I., a “One Disney” strategy, and a super-app to end all super-apps. But perhaps what’s most telling is what he glossed over: coming layoffs, the rising costs of sports, and the price for each attempted spin of the Disney flywheel.
gavin newsom
Eriq Gardner • October 9, 2023
Trump Defamation Theories & Newsom’s Weak Case
California’s governor is fighting to highlight the president’s legal inanities with a ridiculous Fox lawsuit of his own. Meanwhile, the lawyer battling Melania offers a bold legal theory: If the president can’t be held liable for what he says in office, he shouldn’t be able to sue anyone else.


Greta Gerwig
Matthew Belloni • October 9, 2023
Why Netflix Caved for Greta Gerwig’s ‘Narnia’
Securing a wide release and 45-day window for 'The Magician's Nephew,' the 'Barbie' director broke the streamer's will on its previously nonnegotiable day-and-date strategy. So why now?
Mandalorian and Grogu movie
Scott Mendelson • October 9, 2023
Can ‘Grogu’ Rescue ‘Star Wars’ From Itself?
After years of creative chaos, executive indecision, and a streaming glut that cannibalized the franchise’s theatrical appeal, Lucasfilm is returning to theaters with something very different. Will ‘Grogu’ be a ‘Solo’-sized disaster? Or has Disney just lowered the bar for success?
Nia Long
Matthew Belloni • October 9, 2023
‘Michael’ Star’s Pay Dispute & Who Will Direct Part Two?
News and notes on the chatter that ‘Michael’ producer Graham King is stepping in to direct the sequel, and Nia Long’s quiet fight with Lionsgate over her compensation for the movie.


Spider-Man: Brand New Day
Matthew Belloni • October 9, 2023
Hollywood’s Report Card, According to High School Kids, Pt. 3
My annual sit-down with a candid group of teen moviegoers, who share their brutally unfiltered thoughts on the stars and stories that do (and don’t) get them into theaters—from ‘Spider-Man’ (“always gonna hit”) to Spielberg (“He’s no Nolan”) to Sydney Sweeney (“like… no”).


  • Terms
  • Privacy
  • Contact
  • FAQ
  • Careers
© 2026 Heat Media All rights reserved.
Create an account

Already a member? Log In

CREATE AN ACCOUNT with Google
CREATE AN ACCOUNT with Google
OR YOUR EMAIL

OR

Use Email & Password Instead

USE EMAIL & PASSWORD
Password strength:

OR

Use Another Sign-Up Method

Become a member

All of the insider knowledge from our top tier authors, in your inbox.

Create an account

Already a member? Log In

Verify your email!

You should receive a link to log in at .

I DID NOT RECEIVE A LINK

Didn't get an email? Check your spam folder and confirm the spelling of your email, and try again. If you continue to have trouble, reach out to fritz@puck.news.

CREATE AN ACCOUNT with Google
CREATE AN ACCOUNT with Google
CREATE AN ACCOUNT with Apple
CREATE AN ACCOUNT with Apple
OR USE EMAIL & PASSWORD
Password strength:

OR
Log In

Not a member yet? Sign up today

Log in with Google
Log in with Google
Log in with Apple
Log in with Apple
OR USE EMAIL & PASSWORD
Don't have a password or need to reset it?

OR
Verify Account

Verify your email!

You should receive a link to log in at .

I DID NOT RECEIVE A LINK

Didn't get an email? Check your spam folder and confirm the spelling of your email, and try again. If you continue to have trouble, reach out to fritz@puck.news.

YOUR EMAIL

Use a different sign in option instead

Member Exclusive

Get access to this story

Create a free account to preview Puck’s full offering, including exclusive articles, private emails from authors, and more.

Already a member? Sign in

Free article unlocked!

You are logged into a free account as unknown@example.com

ENJOY 1 FREE ARTICLE EACH MONTH

Subscribe today to join the inside conversation at the nexus of Wall Street, Washington, A.I., Hollywood, and more.

START 14-DAY FREE TRIAL

  • Daily articles and breaking news
  • Personal emails directly from our authors
  • Gift subscriber-only stories to friends & family
  • Unlimited access to archives
  • Bookmark articles to create a Reading List
  • Quarterly calls with industry experts from the power corners we cover