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Aug 4, 2025

Line Sheet
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Lauren Sherman Lauren Sherman

Hi, and welcome to Line Sheet. I hope you had a great weekend. Mine was filled with birthday celebrations, light shopping, sleep, and exercise. Doesn’t get better. Thank you to my friend Claire, especially, who gifted me Brentwood Country Mart merch for the second year in a row. Turpan forever.

In today’s issue, I attempt to peel back the onion on Quince, the San Francisco–based, fast-everything firm, which could end up becoming the brand of our time. There is absolutely nothing original about this company—from its name to the products—except for its lack of even trying to seem original, which may be why it has our attention. The greatest compliment I’ve heard is that it’s “the new Kirkland Signature.” The biggest insult? “Shein for old people.”

Up top, I check in on the Brazilian shaman famed (in the fashion world, at least) for working with LVMH, and wonder how American Eagle brand president Jennifer Foyle is faring amid this incredibly stupid Sydney Sweeney advertising campaign scandal.

Programming note: Tomorrow on Fashion People, luxury analyst king Luca Solca joins me to discuss this season’s earnings and beyond. Plus, stylist Sarah de Mavaleix pops in to analyze the latest Phoebe Philo collection images—and the designer’s influence on the rest of the fashion industry since she launched her brand almost two years ago. A fab episode! Listen here and here.

Mentioned in this issue: Quince, Sid Gupta, Sourabh Mahajan, Becky Mortimer, American Eagle, Sydney Sweeney, Jay Schottenstein, Jennifer Foyle, Gucci, Sabato De Sarno, Anna Wintour, Jenni Kayne, Toteme, Trump, and many, many more…

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  • American Eagle is in denial: I’ve stayed out of the American Eagle–Sydney Sweeney good jeans/genes conversation because the whole thing doesn’t deserve our time or attention. (Funny that she registered as a Republican in 2024, though.) However, I was curious about how the American Eagle executive team was strategizing in the aftermath. Turns out, they are being as vague with employees as they are with the public.

    On Friday, more than a week after the controversy started brewing, the company posted a statement on its Instagram account that said almost literally nothing, followed up by more images from the Sweeney campaign. Internally, president Jennifer Foyle is acting like “nothing has happened,” according to people inside the company, claiming that the advertisement was tested beforehand and received no pushback from focus groups. But was the infamous video—the one where Sweeney says, “My genes are blue”—also tested? Anyway, people are annoyed with Foyle’s blasé approach. (A rep for American Eagle did not respond to a request for comment.)

    I wonder whether C.E.O. Jay Schottenstein, an important Jewish philanthropist and known Trump supporter, will say anything during the next earnings call on September 4. Shares of American Eagle are still up significantly, after spiking on July 28, five days after the campaign was released. We’ll have to wait another month to hear whether this commotion helped boost overall sales. The two items branded AE x Sydney Sweeney are virtually sold out, but my guess is they didn’t buy many units in the first place.
  • The fashion show shaman is mad at Donald Trump: Fashion show organizers are famously terrible at planning for weather, resulting in some disastrous situations for attendees and brands alike. Sabato De Sarno’s first collection for Gucci probably would have played better if he had been able to show it on the streets of Brera, as planned, rather than the black box space at the Gucci headquarters. Who knows, but at least the audience wasn’t drowning, like they were at Tommy Hilfiger’s show on Greenpoint pier in September 2022. Alas, the heart wants what it wants, and in most cases, the people staging these events go to great lengths—even betting on mystical forces—so that they can go on as planned.

    In fact, organizers often hire a shaman to ward off bad weather—in particular, a Brazilian shaman who embodies an Indigenous weather-influencing spirit called Cacique Cobra Coral. The spirit was rumored to have aided Louis Vuitton during its Rio de Janeiro Resort show in May 2016. (I’ve heard as much directly from multiple Louis Vuitton and LVMH employees.) As someone who was at the show, I can confirm there was not a drop of rain—nor any mosquitoes, despite the fact that we were sitting on the water right below the Niterói Contemporary Art Museum. (Mosquitoes were a big fear back then because of Zika.)

    Anyway, the foundation that manages the spirit of Cacique Cobra Coral keeps a very active Instagram account. And, these days, their focus is not on aiding fashion brands, Olympics committees, or concert promoters. Instead, the foundation has taken an adverse stance against Trump—who, at the end of July, instituted a 50 percent tariff on Brazilian-made goods imported to the U.S. The spirit of Cobra Coral is not happy about these tariffs, and predicts the Mississippi River will dramatically flood within the next three months, and that the San Andreas fault is going to be activated. “The time of reckoning is coming (via air, earth, fire, and seas),” the spirit… wrote. “The hoarse/meek voice of the people who elected him (via delegates) will demand answers.” Time to get out those Judy kits?! Just kidding, this is not preparedness advice.

And now on to the main event…

Quince’s Imitation Games

Quince’s Imitation Games

Everyone in fashion hates Quince, but the luxury knockoff brand reportedly generates around $700 million a year in revenue—thanks, partly, to the ultra-wealthy striving to appear budget-conscious.

Lauren Sherman Lauren Sherman

The wedding of long-suffering Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin and billionaire nepo baby Alex Soros was made possible by all the expected brands. Abedin-Soros wore Erdem, Oscar de la Renta, Givenchy, and Marchesa fashions to various sequences of the affair; Soros wore a Dior tux. Met Gala florist Raúl Àvila designed arrangements; the stationery was procured from St. Louis’s Cheree Berry. To be honest, I found Vogue’s depiction of the affair a little melancholy and suitably weird. (Abedin-Soros recalled Anna Wintour and Clinton choosing the wedding date. And Soros, who was supposed to be in Europe at a conference on the same day, was said to have acquiesced.) The only surprising element of the proceedings, in my view, was the last-minute procurement of a pile of Quince blankets, provided to guests during the cold and rainy Hamptons ceremony.

There’s certainly a chance the Quince blankets were gratis, called in by a Vogue market editor, or some such, at the last hour. Regardless, the blankets were a symbol of Quince’s convenience and practicality. And perhaps those attributes help explain why Iconiq Capital—a hybrid family office with $80 billion in assets under management that invests money from L.P.s such as Mark Zuckerberg, Reid Hoffman, and Jack Dorsey—recently became Quince’s new lead investor. Iconiq led a $200 million round of funding that valued the San Francisco–based maker of said blankets, and a whole lot of other things, at $4.5 billion.

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The promise of Quince isn’t all that bad. The company endeavors to deliver luxury products—cashmere sweaters, leather handbags, diamond earrings, etcetera—for half, sometimes a quarter, of the standard market price. And yet Quince, which is decidedly not for rich people, is becoming a thing among the ultra-wealthy—as a fashion choice, a so-called investment, and now a wedding tchotchke. In its own way, it’s also become a meta commentary on the passing age of quiet luxury: The cohort that wears Loro Piana knit polos has been educated to know a deal when they see it. No one wants to be viewed as a sucker who overspends on clothing, or misses out on a business opportunity.

Founded in 2018 by Sid Gupta, a serial entrepreneur, Sourabh Mahajan, an engineer, and Becky Mortimer, a supply chain and sourcing expert, Quince was a fast follower to the likes of Everlane, Buck Mason, Naadam, Cuyana, and M.Gemi, which promised high-quality garments and accessories at a fraction of the typical price. The first-movers achieved varying degrees of success (and credibility). Those companies—save for shoe brand M.Gemi, which produces in Italy—rarely deployed the word “luxury” at first. Quince, however, aggressively pursued the luxury customer, claiming that it used the same factories as some of the biggest brand names in the world. Like Trader Joe’s or Kirkland Signature, the idea was to impart value.

Mainly, though, Quince spent—and spent, and spent, and spent—on marketing. And in this regard, it has been something of an outlier. For the last decade, a series of fashion companies have found themselves upside down on customer acquisition costs, as the dollars required to find a new user outpriced a pair of, say, Allbirds sneakers or an Away roller bag, even without the added fees of a department store. But Quince continued to spend through the deluge, apparently finding positive, or positive-enough, unit economics. Today, Quince generates something like $700 million a year in revenue. Remarkable, given that it’s been in business for fewer than 10 years. (Quince did not respond to a request for comment.)

The Restaurant

Naturally, everyone in fashion hates Quince. (At least everyone who’s ever heard of it.) Unlike that first generation of e-commerce fashion companies, Quince has made no effort to build a brand. Everlane told a story about transparency. M.Gemi’s narrative was about Italian manufacturing. Italic offers cheaper “atelier-grade essentials” from the same manufacturers as luxury brands. Naadam had some yarn about taking a bag of cash to Mongolia to buy… yarn.  These brands all still exist, and some generate hundreds of millions of dollars a year in sales, but they never scaled sufficiently enough to make up for the margin lost by charging less than their predecessors would have.

To save money as it scaled, Quince kept headcount low, and focused on the supply chain and technology. When I sent smoke signals up to the Bay Area last week, nobody knew anyone who works there. And no one had a real opinion of Gupta and his team, which includes his engineer wife. One person who did business with them told me that they didn’t remember liking him very much. (Mahajan is based in India; Mortimer left the business in 2021.) “It’s Shein with an American skin on it,” said one person once briefly connected to the company. “Everything—everything—is derivative, and has already worked for someone else.”

Of course, several fashion brands have threatened, or taken, legal action against the company. In April 2025, Tapestry-owned Coach accused Quince of copying its “iconic” Rogue and Soho Flap bags, while Deckers-owned Ugg said in 2023 that Quince’s version of Uggs was too close to the real thing. (Quince has denied the allegations.)

Even its name is a knockoff. In 2024, Gupta & Co. were sued by another Quince, a well-regarded fine dining restaurant in San Francisco, which had been receiving returns and fielding customer service calls for Quince.com. Originally, Gupta denied the connection, but then a podcast surfaced wherein he admitted the opposite, as a March 2024 Eater article pointed out. “We were eating at a sister restaurant to a three-Michelin-star restaurant called Quince in S.F., and we really love the name,” Gupta said. “And the restaurant we were eating at was not nearly as fancy, but quite good food. And so we said, ‘If it was good enough for a three-Michelin-star restaurant, then it might be good enough for us.’” The two parties settled out of court.

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Quince, after all, is comfortable spending its way out of a problem. Instead of fretting about the costs of Google advertising, the company went all in. Search for any Jenni Kayne sweater on Google, and a Quince sweater surfaces. Looking for a dupe of the Toteme blanket-scarf coat? Quince has one for a tenth of the price.

Quince’s Toteme knockoff isn’t going to tank Toteme’s sales. Everyone knocks each other off. Once upon a time, however, there was an illusion that each brand was at least trying to do something different. As one impacted brand rep told me, the one-two punch of adjacent advertising, and including the price of the original on the Quince product page, feels “mechanical” and “extortion driven.” Another brand rep told me that “when Quince copies an ad of ours and our product, we have to reset our ad strategy, and make new content, so we lose the gains and momentum of the ad.”

Sinister to some, savvy to others, the company is certainly unworried about decorum. But more than anything, Quince is a product of its time—an era when the acceleration of artificial intelligence is making us acutely aware that everything is a ruse, that nothing is real, that luxury is a construct, and everything can be replaced by technology for a fraction of the price in a fraction of the time. The company’s actual name, after all, is Last Brand Inc.

As for whether this particular construct is profitable? That’s harder to believe. A large portion of Quince’s products are made in China and Cambodia, the latter of which has settled with the Trump administration on tariffs, but the policy has been a financial headache for the company. Also, if all this tariff nonsense went away, the margins still aren’t there, even at double the scale. Amazon’s volume play works because it sells everything, and loses money on many things. As one observer noted, “Quince is undercutting price in a way that doesn’t feel real.” One of the failures of the D.T.C. era was that investors who typically bet on technology didn’t understand that product companies don’t scale in the same way as software companies. Seems they may not have learned their lesson.

 

What I’m Reading…

Bill Cohan just can’t quit Saks Global, and neither can you! For what it’s worth, I recently heard from a luxury brand that just received a large payment from the group, so that’s something. [Puck]

I love the Mert Alas–shot Saint Laurent campaign starring Kate Moss, Chloë Sevigny, and Frankie Rayder. [Hypebae]

Emma Rosenblum, who used to run editorial at Bustle Digital Group, wrote another book, this time a sendup of a certain flavor of New York mom. A few of the characters seem to be inspired by Line Sheet superstars, and there is actually a Line Sheet/Puck callout. I did not write the fictional item that is included, but I do think it’s funny. [Amazon]

Liz Goldwyn, who is something of a lingerie expert, on the return of pointy bras—and more. [Starf*cker]

Dylan Scott has a nice state of the union on GLP-1s. There’s growing evidence that these drugs may aid in preventing a lot of different diseases. But what is the world going to do with all these people who are living longer, because they’re avoiding diabetes, heart disease, liver and kidney failure, and Alzheimer’s? Surely another terrible disease will emerge to take them. [Vox]

 

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Lauren


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