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Welcome back to What I’m Hearing, coming at you from Gurney’s on Eastern Long Island, where I’m moderating at BofA Securities’ annual Media in Montauk event, hosted by analyst Jessica Reif Ehrlich. Last year’s keynote was Shari Redstone, whose rosy assessment of her Paramount Global business seems downright quaint a year later as she nears a sale to David Ellison’s Skydance Media and his backers. A little more on that today, plus another red flag at the box office, in today’s briefer-than-usual edition.
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What I'm Hearing
What I'm Hearing

Welcome back to What I’m Hearing, coming at you from Gurney’s on Eastern Long Island, where I’m moderating at BofA Securities’ annual Media in Montauk event, hosted by analyst Jessica Reif Ehrlich. Last year’s keynote was Shari Redstone, whose rosy assessment of her Paramount Global business seems downright quaint a year later as she nears a sale to David Ellison’s Skydance Media and his backers. A little more on that today, plus another red flag at the box office, in today’s briefer-than-usual edition…

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Discussed in this issue: Shari Redstone, Jim Morris, Tim White, Pete Docter, Snoop Dogg, Steven Paul, Brian Robbins, John Lasseter, Snoop Dogg, Chris Miller, Chris McCarthy, Bill Pruitt, and…Rupert Murdoch’s sensible wedding shoes.

Who Won the Week: Every TV News Leader
Fox News may have won the Trump conviction ratings race with 4.7 million viewers for the verdict, and MSNBC scored a rare No. 1 victory in primetime that night, but all TV news divisions will likely benefit big from the latest Trump spectacle, especially if it juices lackluster interest in the presidential campaign overall.

Runner-up: Snoop Dogg, the first person to get his name listed twice in the title of a college football bowl game: I’m sure we’ll all be watching the “Snoop Dogg Arizona Bowl Presented by Gin & Juice By Dre and Snoop,” coming Dec. 28 to The CW.

Now to the saga that won’t end…

Shari’s Moment of Hard Truth
It’s kinda nuts how, as I type, all of Hollywood—not to mention the 20,000-plus employees of Paramount Global and everyone who works for National Amusements—is waiting around for one person to decide what to do. The Skydance deal is done. David Ellison & Co. would pay $2 billion for National Amusements, the Shari Redstone family holding company through which she controls Paramount Global. About half of Paramount’s B shareholders then get the sweetened $15 a share, a 26 percent premium over Friday’s close, and the company receives an added $1.5 billion to pay down debt while merging with Skydance. The Ellison group would then own two-thirds of Paramount, per the Journal, and David could begin figuring out where on the lot he’d like to park his bitchin’ Lamborghini.

Done deal, studio saved (for now), and Shari walks away with her head held (relatively) high, her creditors paid off, and her father’s legacy in the hands of one of the world’s richest families. And yet… she is said to be wavering tonight. Unwilling to pull the trigger just yet, despite the shareholder meeting tomorrow. Looking at a rival bid for just National Amusements from the secret money behind producer Steven Paul, steward of the Baby Geniuses franchise. (Succession couldn’t make this up.) Or maybe doing nothing at all. Can you imagine if Shari takes the Paramount sale process all the way to the goal line… and then decides to run out the clock rather than lunge in for the touchdown?

I imagine this decision is very difficult for her. This is the same woman who was mistreated so badly by her father, Sumner, during his life, and yet when he finally died, she cried and sang “My Way” at his grave, according to the book Unscripted. She cares about this company, at least in the abstract; she cares about what it means. And, let’s be honest, she knows the second she says “yes,” me, you, Roger Goodell, and virtually everyone she knows in the business world will stop caring about her at all. She’ll be just another rich person.

Plus, she’s got Paramount’s makeshift leadership trio—George Cheeks, Chris McCarthy, and Brian Robbins—whispering in her ear about staying the course, letting them execute their plan for the company, fighting on. They’ll pitch the board the same deck after the shareholder meeting tomorrow, and pray the Skydance deal falls apart. In advance, Robbins, who runs the film studio, has taken to posting some inspirational memes on his Instagram: “You’ll always sound crazy until it WORKS,” reads one. “There is so much power in believing that everything will work out.” Indeed, Brian.

But for Shari, everything didn’t work out. She couldn’t keep this company, not after the neglect by her father and his cronies rendered it unable to compete in the modern digital entertainment economy. Not after her faith in C.E.O. Bob Bakish led to Paramount following the other legacy media companies off a cliff chasing Netflix. She needs to sell. We all know it, and now, finally, it seems like she knows it, too. Or does she?

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Quote of the Week
“There is no generative AI in Beyond the Spider-Verse and there never will be.”
—Chris Miller, the Spider-Verse filmmaker, on Twitter/X, in a pointed message to Sony Pictures C.E.O. Tony Vinciquerra, who said that the studio is “very focused on A.I.”

Runner-up: “I was thinking, ‘Do people just not want to see the kind of film we make anymore? Is that done?’”
—Jim Morris, the refreshingly candid Pixar president, recalling to Bloomberg the low morale after Elemental delivered the studio’s worst opening weekend in decades.

A little more on this…

Pixar is getting dragged a bit for this story, especially Pete Docter’s admission that the studio under his creative leadership has relied a lot more—too much, in his words—on niche autobiographical stories like Luca, Turning Red, and Elemental, rather than the more populist, four-quadrant themes and humor-heart mix that defined the studio under John Lasseter. “I don’t think we can ever let ourselves off the hook of making sure that we deliver the best possible and most relatable films,” Docter said (emphasis mine).

Is Pixar abandoning personal, filmmaker-driven projects, or even originality itself? No. Morris did confirm they are returning to the one-for-us, one-for-them strategy of the early 2010s, meaning one sequel or so for each original. And from everything I’ve heard, the long leash given to filmmakers of late has indeed been pulled in. But that’s probably the right move, a compromise that gives Pixar a better chance for overall success while taking swings at new franchise creation every year or two. As long as these movies still cost $200 million, that’s kinda the only rational path, really. I said as much last year when Elemental was about to open, and this is actually the strategy that Lasseter himself has been quietly recommending for Pixar to people around town for years now.

Since John was forced out in 2018, the Pixar leadership got so inside their own head (pun intended) that they basically bet on the commercial appeal of their own directors’ personal experiences—their “authorship.” It was a natural extension of the Pixar ethos: The Incredibles was born out of filmmaker Brad Bird’s own struggle to balance work and family life, and Lasseter’s own Toy Story and Cars took inspiration from his boomer upbringing in California. But these movies also showcased big, commercial ideas and storylines with huge, relatable characters. And the sequels built upon those worlds and answered a fundamental question that Docter’s Lightyear team apparently never asked: Does the audience actually want this?

I don’t know about you, but I’m not worried about the creative output at Pixar, especially now that the mandate to make Disney+ content is being lifted. The better question is whether the new shifts will matter for the business? Or has feature animation simply been devalued so much by streaming that only the biggest franchises can justify those massive production and theatrical release costs? I don’t know the answer, and people at Pixar have reason to be nervous about Inside Out 2. Not because it’s bad—everyone I’ve talked to says the opposite, actually—but because if that doesn’t work, what will?

My Reading List…
Be afraid: Domestic box office is now down 24 percent from 2023 and 42 percent from 2019. [IndieWire]

How in the world does Netflix get away with keeping “This is a true story” on Baby Reindeer—and campaigning the show for Emmys?!— when the “true story” part has largely been disproven? [Vanity Fair]

Exactly why Jon Stewart returned to The Daily Show: Tonight’s excellent segment on Trump’s conviction and the media’s coverage. [YouTube]

I know nothing matters anymore, but it’s worth reading this first-person account of working with Trump on The Apprentice, which producer Bill Pruitt waited 20 years to relate. [Slate]

Seems like Sean Combs might not be a great guy. [Rolling Stone]

Congrats to Rupert Murdoch, his sensible wedding shoes, and his blushing fifth bride! Who also happens to be Roman Abramovitch’s former mother-in-law?! [NY Times]

Now Scott Mendelson looks at the recent alarming misses on prerelease tracking…

Bad Boys & The Bummer Summer
Bad Boys & The Bummer Summer
Everyone in town is wondering whether ‘Bad Boys: Ride or Die’ will be the latest summer movie to miss on its opening weekend tracking. But what if the tracking, and not the movie, is the problem?
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After a miserable May at the box office, Hollywood’s hopes seem pinned on Sony’s Bad Boys: Ride or Die, the Will Smith and Martin Lawrence action sequel out June 7—and the latest faux tentpole in a summer filled with them. But executives won’t only be concerned with the actual performance of a franchise whose most recent entry debuted to $72 million over the long President’s Day weekend in early 2020, right before Covid shut down the world. They’ll also be closely following how Ride or Die performs against its $50 million-$55 million tracking for opening weekend.

This year’s bummer summer seems all the worse because prerelease tracking has been off for three of the most recent tentpole weekends. For example, The Fall Guy was projected to debut with $35 million but came in just under $28 million. Two weeks later, IF debuted not to $40 million as projected but $33.7 million. But tracking, which has never been a perfect science, appears to be bearing too much weight this summer as a chew toy for Hollywood’s collective anxiety.

As for why tracking doesn’t always match up with the opening weekend grosses, sometimes it’s a review embargo dropping days before release, or underestimating the potential for films starring, or targeted at, underrepresented demographics. (That longtime issue became a running joke amid Tyler Perry’s mid-2000s peak.) Sometimes, the tracking and the armchair pundits are just wrong; a result, increasingly, of media types ensconced in their own fandom-focused bubbles. Projecting The Wolverine to open with $65 million-$80 million in 2013 never made sense. It was a solo Hugh Jackman-led comic book drama with little else to sell, following up the mostly disliked X-Men Origins: Wolverine (which opened to $85 million in May 2009). And so its $53 million launch was seen as a box office failure, even when it was mainly a tracking failure.

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And tracking has only become more suspect amid the increasing fragmentation of the monoculture and the unpredictability of social media, among other factors. There were also layoffs and furloughs late last year at National Market Research, Screen Engine, and Market Cast. And the industry is still adjusting its methodologies to account for the post-pandemic era, where the combination of streaming, inflation, and changing behaviors continue to be a drag on attendance. Breakouts like Barbie or Oppenheimer—or Everything Everywhere All at Once famously (or infamously, if you work for a tracking service)—overperformed on opening weekend and over the long haul. But almost everything else earns 15-20 percent less than it might have in the before times.

This is not to condemn prerelease tracking services. Like too many things in modern online life, such as a willful misunderstanding of how Rotten Tomatoes works, the problem is how these tools are weaponized in S.E.O.-driven media discourse. Prerelease tracking is a tool for studios to measure the success of their marketing campaigns, both overall and on a demographically specific basis. It is not a glorified crystal ball by which to preemptively hammer a studio for lower-than-hoped initial projections or to declare “pass” or “fail” for the actual opening. And yet, it often feels that way.

The difference between the projected opening weekend gross and the actual debut figure is too often discussed in terms of the movie failing or overperforming, instead of whether the tracking, itself, was incorrect. If the industry de-emphasized tracking, the narrative for IF might have pivoted from disappointment to the reality that a $33.7 million debut was actually good for a film of its positioning and caliber. Whether Bad Boys: Ride or Die debuts with $50 million or $70 million, the actual opening weekend gross is obviously more critical than how it compares to educated guesstimates based on polling and data-crunching.

If the fourth Bad Boys opens with $40 million, tops out at $90 million domestically, and (with the same 48/52 domestic/overseas split as Bad Boys for Life) $185 million worldwide, the lower-than-needed gross would be more problematic than whether it hits its tracking targets. It is worth remembering that Fall Guy opening with $35 million and IF opening with $40 million still wouldn’t have been enough to secure theatrical profitability, considering their $100 million-plus budgets and softer-than-hoped ($78 million and $58 million, respectively, thus far) overseas box office. That was the critical problem with the tentpoles from last month.

The entertainment ecosystem exists in a pandemic- and inflation-battered world where the entire future of mainstream theatrical exhibition remains in comparative doubt. This includes shifting behaviors related to theatrical moviegoing and at-home entertainment consumption. It is ever more apparent that tracking should not be treated as an exact science or a preemptive battering ram, and films’ respective opening weekends should not be entirely judged by whether or not they matched the projections. The actual raw grosses and how that relates to budget, potential for legs (reviews, word of mouth, historical precedent), likely overseas earnings, and less concrete factors (such as long-term value in the post-theatrical afterlife, or keeping a favorite talent happily in-house) should be of paramount concern when judging the opening weekend. In short, it’s the gross, not the guess.

The Feedback
Recalling the days when Hollywood “wasn’t filled with total wusses,” as I did Thursday in imploring distributors to pick up the Trump movie The Apprentice, is a good way to get feedback...

“I’m pretty sure [being a wuss] is also a bad business strategy in 2024. Controversy and edge break through. The video content on TikTok and YouTube makes today’s ultra-safe TV and film feel like something your high school principal would make. But look at Civil War. Put a zeitgeisty, provocative trailer in the hands of TikTok creators and they’ll market the shit out of the movie for you. I’d argue Barbenheimer had a similar dynamic. Ben Shapiro hated Barbie… but also posted a 40-minute video about it!” —An executive

“I may get canceled for even texting this, but Harvey [Weinstein] would have known how to turn this thing into a $100 million Oscar winner.” —A lawyer

“Didn’t Lionsgate distribute Fahrenheit 9/11 because Disney refused to let Miramax release it? And wasn’t The Interview’s wide release canceled after the Sony hack? Studios may want to pat themselves on the back now for distributing these films at all, but there’s always been an aversion to taking responsibility for releasing hot-button movies.” —A manager/producer

I also got PLENTY of suggestions in response to my Monday item on the lack of meaningful film producers under 40…

“Surprised you didn’t list the Star Thrower guys, Tim & Trevor White. They also made it without having worked for a big name and drafting off those relationships, fwiw.” —A producer

“How much more must I produce to be ‘most powerful,’ or is it that I look like I’m 50?” —An under-40 producer

“I think with the added barriers of entry, plus the old guard continuing
to stick around, we need to start looking at the under-50 crowd
as the new under-40s.” —A producer older than 40 but younger than 50

And just for fun…

“Sometimes after listening to your podcast I want to throw up and then take a shower.” —A producer/writer

Finally…
Wow, Deadpool & Wolverine just joined The Quorum’s long-lead film tracking chart… and registered the highest “interest” score in the three-year history of the chart…
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Have a great week,
Matt

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